[Note: Thin inv is out of date, I hope to update it in early 2011.]
This Bug out Bag (BoB) is for four people, since if it ever needs to be used I will carry most items for my family.
Currently using a U.S. military surplus CFP-90 Main Pack with Patrol Pack purchased on eBay for about $150 with shipping included. I selected the CFP-90 specifically because of the need to carry for myself and three others, and the pack has one of the largest size/weight capacities available.
As the photo shows, there are two main compartments and three outside ones. The Patrol Pack, not pictured, can be carried as a small backpack or attached to the top of the Main Pack. I know I need to add several items, and some items are overkill that will eventually be corrected. This inventory will change over time, again this is just to give an idea of what a BoB can be.
Also see related post, Thinking Through Bug Out Bags (BoB).
Main compartment:
- 1x two-man, four-season tent, OD green
- 1x blue compression bag (empty)
- Green dry bag;
- 16x AA / 16x AAA batteries
- 50’ OD 550 cord
- 1x fishing gear box, scaler, 900 yd line
- 1x fillet knife w/sharpener
- 2x hand warmers
- 1x pkg Moleskin
- 3x emergency blankets
- 1x thermal blanket (heavier)
- 1x small pkg tissue
- 48′ of 1/8″ cord
- 4x socks / 2x underwear / 1x t-shirt
- ~10x zip ties
- 1x mosquito net, head only
- 1x pkg wet wipes (33x)
Lower compartment:
- 1x 8×10’ tarp, camo/OD, w/grommets
- 1x individual camo net
- 2x fleece sleeping bags (lightweight) in red compression bag
- 2x nylon windbreakers, hooded
- Clear dry box;
- 80 rds 9mm / ~400 rds .22 LR
- 2x lighters / 8x tea candles (4+ hrs ea)
- 1x tube Krazy Glue
- 2x pieces steel wool
- 2x rags (gun cleaning)
- Medical (black dry box);
- 1x Celox, 0.5 oz (and 1x in the BoV med kit)
- Bee sting/snake bite kit
- 1x tube antibiotic ointment
- 4x small packets antibiotic ointment
- 1x packet burn gel
- 1x tube hydrocortisone (anti-itch)
- 1x tube Lamisil (antifungal)
- Various 4×6” would dressings
- 30+ Band-Aids, various sizes
- 1x bottle Skin Shield (liquid bandage w/antiseptic)
- 18x alcohol wipes
- 1x smelling salts
- 1x bottle Off insect block (20% DEET)
- 3x Off wipes (25% DEET)
- 1x nail clippers
- 1x roll medical tape
- 1x scissors
- 8x latex gloves
- 1x sewing kit w/extra needles
- 1x floss
- Various amounts (and generic equivalents); Benadryl, Sudafed, Dayquil, Nyquil, Tylenol, Ibuprofen, Alka-Seltzer Cold & Cough, Dramamine, anti-diarrhea meds, cough meds, sleep aids
Outside, upper compartment:
- 50’ camo cord
- Blue dry bag;
- 115 lumen LED flashlight, white/red/blue light
- Small hunting knife
- Multi-tool
- Lensatic compass
- Folding saw, 7”
- 2x cheap ponchos
- 1x small pkg tissue
- 1x compass / whistle / thermometer / magnifying glass
- 1x nylon strap, 2x shoe laces
Outside, lower compartment:
- Dry bags; 1x clear, 1x red, 1x blue, 1x green
- Reserved for: GPS, hand-held radio(s), AM/FM/SW (Grundig G6 Aviator), misc electronics
Outside, full-length compartment:
- 2x 500ml bottles of water
- 1x camp shovel, plastic
- 1x pair gloves
- 1x OD scarf
- Room reserved for additional items
Patrol Pack (not pictured), main compartment:
- 1x water filter (Katadyn Hiker, up to 200 gal)
- 12x dry granola bars (1x box)
- 1x camp stove (sterno)
- 1x pgk wet wipes (33x)
- 1x double-roll TP (in plastic bag)
- 50’ OD 550 cord
- 8 oz bottle hand sanitizer
- LED flashlight, shake-charge, waterproof
- Food (blue dry bag);
- 2x 16oz jars PB
- 2x 12oz tins corned beef
- Orange dry bag;
- 1x lightweight pot (1.1L) with bowl
- 2x spork, 1x knife/spatula (tough plastic)
- Salt, pepper, sugar (small containers)
- 2x lighter
- 1x magnesium fire starter
- 2x Sterno cans (45 min ea)
- 2 oz bottle hand sanitizer
- 1x small bar soap
- Toiletries (small black bag):
- 1x bar soap
- 3x tooth small brushes / 1x small toothpaste / 1x floss
- 1x small deodorant
- 1 bag q-tips
- 1x small lotion bottle
- 1x small can shave gel
Patrol Pack (not pictured) outer compartment:
- 2x 500ml bottles water
- 2x mil surplus 1 qt canteen w/cover (empty)
Looks like we have similar inventories… Glad to see it, makes me feel like I am not over packing or leaving something out.
To much non-essential stuff to lug around. If your going to be in the wilderness you’ll suffer (don’t believe me then walk out there and spend a week with what you have). If your urban you have the wrong stuff. Go to the wrong area of your city where you don’t belong and stay 3 days to test this. Condense what you have by testing in the environments you are planning to be in. All you need is water, food, shelter and possibly security (from what no one knows at the moment). Get a set of bump keys for an urban setup and learn how to use them fast, this will give you shelter, water and keep you out of the elements. Learn to eat things like beef jerky for days on end, because you do not want to attract attention. Learn to sleep in small places like the closet, which is what you’ll be doing once you’ve learned to use your bump keys. Learn all the routes to get you from A-Z and practice these once a month for the weekend.
It is too much for one person and for a 72-hour bag; I am slowly making some adjustments. However, it’s really more for two adults with two children as a foundation for much longer than 72 hours. If we bug out and have to leave the BoV, the BoB must serve this purpose.
We got the MOLLE II packs but not quite there yet as far as packing up. I like your list, it is very thorough and appropriate for a family with kids. Thanks!
Every BOB I have seen has fishing gear but none has gill net. A 10M Graball Gill net with floats and weights is very lite (~300gms) and compact and would out fish line and hook any day of the week and also its passive(YAY!). Also 20 M of Gill met meshing with no weights or floats is a excellent way to trap birds and very lite ~50gms). Also ~100lb braid fishing line is excellent for snares as it cuts… just some thought on lite weight additions
Just an observation, but your BOB is meant for 4 people (2 adults, 2 children) and you are only carrying a total of 4x 500ml bottles of water. If you for some reason, end up on foot, and there is any significant distance between available sources of water, you may run into issues.
Having the water filter is great…IF you come across a source of water to use it on. If you don’t, or you happen to be “on the run” and cant take the time to stop, and prep water, then you may end up wishing you had more in your readily available supply. What you are presently carrying is the minimum recommended per day for 1 adult based on no heavy activity. If you are hiking, carrying a load, in rough terrain, and any kind of warm weather, it will NOT be enough.
Sean,
You’re right, not enough water; I’d have to decide what other potentially life-saving items to leave out to carry more water. In the end I decided I likely would be able to find more water, and would need to stock up each chance at first, until some of the other supplies were used up and I was carrying less. I have not only a filter, but purification tablets, and can boil it as well. Luckily I would not need to travel through any arid areas.
BTW, I still haven’t updated my list, stuff like the hand sanitizer and shave cream got moved over the family camping pack long ago.
A suggestion on water: I carry two collapsible, five quart mil surplus canteens. They fold down and secure to about the size of a baseball. In addition to that, as many one and two quart canteens as I can carry. Add to that a Katadyn Pocket filter and you are good to go so long as you know where your water sources exist. You can pick up the collapsible canteens at surplus stores and perhaps Ebay for $10-15.
I’ve just started prepping so I don’t know alot. I also have to consider a souse (not children at home). Do they have their own bags and if so what’s in them. I would expect everyone to carry their own clothes, toiletries, at least a days water and some food for snacking. Depending on age I would have them carry a small compass, matches etc as spares and incase they get seperated.
As I said, I’m new to this, but I’d like to hear others thoughts.
Good inventory, but I would recommend giving everyone a pack. That way they can survive in separation. Cut out some of the non-essentials maybe?
Mostly defense. A .22 probably won’t do anything but piss something off. I would recommend an older surplus gun, Mosin Nagant, SKS, AK 47, whatever. Depends on what you will do with it. If hunting, the MN or similar or even a hunting rifle. If you must defend against other humans, then one of the others or something similar. Ammo for AK’s and SKS’s is plentiful.
Looks good though. I’ve been thinking about this for a while. Nice to see I’m not the only one. Gives me a new strategy to consider, given there will be friendlies.
Tyler,
One of the kids will be old/big enough to carry a pack soon, but not yet and the other will need to be carried for some time (if on foot). Giving them packs at this time is not an option. If bugging out in a vehicle or with use of a jogging stroller/wagon/etc., I’ll have at least an SKS.
If on foot and considering the distance we’d have to go, such rifles are not practical due to their weight, ammo weight, and the most likely hunting scenarios. A .22 would be ideal for small game and the ability to carry lots of ammo (including subsonic), in addition to 9mm pistols. And I’m pretty sure a double-tap in the head/neck/chest from a .22 will do a little more than piss someone off, in most cases.
Im using a hunting pack for my BoB . Everybody has their choice that fits their plan well . The ” blue widow ” by Eberlestock was my choice because it seemed to fit my needs the best and has many configurations similar to MOLLE . , I liked the built in rifle scabbard as well . Holds a but load of gear if you needed it to. I did buy the optional 2 liter hydration system for it and I use that as a back up for when my other water runs out , so far on several trips with it , Its flexible design is working very well . I limit myself to 2 fire arms on outings , a 9mm pistol and a semi auto carbine in the behind the head holster . Bought a machete that broke on the first day ! and a few other items that busted or malfunctioned as well . I guess thats why you test before you need . One thing I would get is a folding sterno stove . Used it several times and you dont actually have to use the can gel fuel with it , holds heat fairly well . Works better and more practical than that german folding pile of $*iT ( used that one for target practice )The Spetnatz shovel works very well .
I have concentrated on first aid supplies , water and everything else. There is a lot of stuff.
How much are you spending to put together one BoB? It has to be done and you don’t find this stuff inside Cracker Jacks boxes. lol
Buck,
I’ve added things over a couple years not and haven’t tracked expenses well. It’s not cheap and I’m sure I’ve spent at least several hundred dollars so far.
I recommend looking into ultra light weight expedition style backpacking. Its already been nearly perfected. I’ve spent weeks on the trail with one other person using nothing but what I carried. With a light-weight high capacity pack, with properly selected gear, you can easily and comfortably carry 40 or more pounds for extended trips, without really sacrificing anything. Remember, if one thing can do the job of another thing you’re carrying, then you packed wrong. As for medicines, try studying natural remedies. For example, need aspirin? Chew up some willow bark. Another thing, I know one can survive a long time with little or no food but you will still have serious problems (fatigue, fainting, dizziness, loss of moral, etc.) Freeze dried foods are very light weight and last a long time. You can also repackage them so they are lighter and less bulky. MRE’s are heavy and bulky.
In regards to a .22 for defense; Mossad issues a .22 handgun for their PRIMARY weapon. I’ve seen midwestern deer taken with a .22 LR rifle, talk to some game wardens, and they are a preferred weapon of many illicit “contractors” in the criminal world. I understand the need to pack for kids, I still have 1 that is too young to really pack anything. She wants to on our walks, so it’s becoming a training issue, along with exercise. One thing I would add to the first aid kit is super glue. Hospitals are using it now in lieu of staples and stitches for alot of things. They refer to it as “surgical glue”. This is much faster than stitches and less likely to be reopened or ripping a stitch out.
As for a net, I carry 2 IMPS nets personally. They are light weight and have multiple uses. As for carrying a weighted net, I can improvise weights if need be. Also carrying a small piece of net, one can improvise a dip net/landing net out of pliable saplings or metal which can be bent easily and then tie the net off around it. Gear will take you so far, knowledge the furthest, and the right combination will take you through to the end. IMHO
I would like more information on fishing with nets from shore – you have seen film of indigenous people throwing their nets into the ocean/lake and hauling them back in again. So, what kind of net would they be using? I am a prepper, have property next to a river (New England) and think that kind of fishing is a great idea. Can anyone share information with me?
I’ve lived in L.A. so I’m not unsympathetic, but big city folks are being unrealistic about bugging out to the country and living off the land. You leave the city and see all the wide open spaces it looks inviting, but there are few places in the conus that are truly uninhabited. In Wyoming I know who my neighbors are. They may live a mile away but we work together every day controlling threats to our homes, livestock, crops, game, etc. In a time of scarce resources survivalist/refuges showing up from the city with their guns, SUV, BOB, etc. would be considered predators.
Eric,
My new pack is a JanSport with external frame, about half the weight of the CFP-90, cheaper, and more comfortable. I have a little freeze dried food, but still focus on high fat/calorie food like spam/corned beef and peanut butter.
Regulator5,
I have a Neos U22 pistol and carbine kit, and a Marlin model 60 in .22. For a bug out situation via vehicle I’ll take it all. On foot I’d probably have to leave the Marlin. Lately picked up a Kel-Tec SU-16C (.556) that is 5lbs and would also come along (review to follow). Netting is a good idea, will add.
Davy,
I feel the same way about my family property in Nebraska; anyone showing up on our property would be turned away, one way or the other. However if you’re speaking public land (which is something I might have use if I need to bug out/evac), can’t agree with that. If anyone tries to stop me from using public land in the initial stages of TEOTWAWKI, I’ll have to push back with extreme prejudice.
Michelle,
There are several ‘casting” nets available for net fishing. These can be ‘cast” from shore. I think it’s Frabil that I’ve seen the most of, not sure on brand name tho. There are also demo videos available and most come with instructions. I’ll say they require practice, but that is easily done even in the backyard. My Dad had me casting a fishing rod with a washer tied to hit at targets when I was young so I could cast accurately around the bushes and trees growing along the banks of the creeks and rivers. Limb lines or “trot lines” are also nice. I use an extremely heavy line for these, but check local regulations.
Less than half the land in the west is privately owned. But, nearly all of the remaining (public) land is leased for specific uses. These leases are often tied to adjacent private land deeds and are bought and sold like private property. The ranchers, loggers, miners, etc. who hold these leases depend on that land to feed their families. TEOTWAWKI likely will include a breakdown in the rule of law that distinguishes between ‘owned’ and ‘leased’.
Come on people, he clearly states that this is a kit for his family (4 people). He also says that he carries “most items” for his family (I have the same approach). In my situation, by teenage children and wife will carry some additional food and water along with extra (lighter) things like clothes.
No kit will ever have EVERYTHING you will need, but if you carry what you know how to use and what is designed for your expected area of survival/travel, then you’re better off than 99% of the people out there.
Great kit. It gives me some ideas and identifies a couple things I need to consider for my own B.O.B…thanks for posting
I would add a bottle of multivitamins. Kids and adults.
I too have gone the route of using newer tech backpacking gear, it is a bit more expensive, but it is designed to carry more weight, more comfortably, for farther distances. I hear some worry about durability of some backpacking gear, but the new stuff from established companies is near indestructible. I’ve worn ALICE packs, and newer Molle packs, and they don’t compare in any way to top end lightweight backpacking gear except in price. If I have to carry 40-50lb on my back for a week, and trust to live off it, I’ll never go back to old surplus.
My biggest concern will always be to find enough water, you’ll never be able to carry enough on foot to go extended periods of time. So the key will be keeping enough gear on hand to haul, filter, purify. You can always rig makeshift filters, a good knife, a metal container to boil water, and a means of making fire will always be a priority. Bring what is hardest to make, or takes the most calories to make . . .
Thanks for posting. I always look forward to the naysayers and haters (“critiques”) anytime somebody posts a BOB. It’s like being the President of the US–always some people that won’t like you.
Nevertheless, I always take something away from seeing other people’s breakdowns.
Great work on organization/quick accessibility. Love to see some more pics of the individual pockets.
K.I.S.S. we know what this means. Your bag is to big and heavy unless you can hump a ruck of 50 plus ponds all day long, so you got some major problems. Need to get all the family to carry. Kids even small kids can carry a 8-10 pound pack all day. In the kids pack put 3 mre’s, water bottle poncho with a poncho liner, dry socks, hard candy. Need to get the wife to help with a least 30% of the rest of the load. Again what the kids carry you adults carry plus the extra stuff. Get rid of all the Rambo crap. If you don’t know how to use it now you won’t have time to learn when your chugging down the trail. Again keep it simple and light. Food, water, water tabs, first aid, light shelter, simple but reliable lights, a good light weapon and extra ammo ( no need to carry so much to take on the golden hoard) couple of cans of sterno, pill bottle with vaseline and cotton balls for a fire starter, get rid of pots and pans and go with a canteen cup or two it does it all. BOB is not meant to live for weeks but to survive to get to a bug out location or cache. If you need to carry all this stuff you have listed you need to get a hand truck and put bike wheels and tires on it (I have one) and stay on hard pack roads.
The whole notion of bugging out with no place to go is one that needs to be a primary factor for all. It does not matter how high tec your gear is how much or little you carry but where on gods little green acre do I go. Remember when you go so do thousand that have no clue where or even worse what they are going to do. It a great notion when its just you to hit the road, live off the land, snoop and poop in all your cammo gear, but if you got a wife and young kids lets get real. I for one have spent 20 years in special ops and know first hand this is not a real option for 95% of those trying to do the right thing. Brothers and Sisters it might be time to consider the better option for most, bugging in. Here is the method to my madness. First I can defend what I know ie; my house and my few blocks of the world. I have the gear, food, water, weapons, ammo, backup power etc. its with in arms reach not on my back. Instead of walking in the path of thousands of potential foes I can defend me and mine from individuals or much smaller groups on my terms and turf. We need to get away from the vision of a brave new world some place else and look at the green grass on this side of the fence. Bugging out should be the last option. I live in coastal Georgia, any path out is west right thru every not so nice area in my area. Besides those who would do me and mine harm their would be thousands of totaly unprepared trying to go west to yet another massive urban setting. They would take the same path that General Sherman took during the war of northern aggression he had 100k soldiers and totaly devistated the land and any thing it could support. Those living in the line of march are not going to be running out with glasses of our famous Georgia sweet tea oh no it will be another thing country folk love to greet uninvited guests with, a 12ga shotgun or now a special new toy called an M-4. Sorry guys souther hospitality right out the window. My OPSEC calls for staying put, leave only as a last option only and that being weeks if not months after the SHTF when a majority of those who would do you harm are pretty use fixxin to be dust in the wind.
Ranger,
If anyone is bugging out, they should indeed have a plan and a place to go, a goal. Most won’t. Bugging in depend on where you are, and specifically what the population density is. NYC, DC metro, etc. – suicide to stay, bugging out make much more sense, plan and prepare for it. You can defend your house – until it’s on fire or a bull dozer or garbage truck has rammed into it, breaching a wall or walls, etc. Again, depends on your area and specifically on how many people will be there. In GA you might be fine bugging in – I’m n NOVA and it ain’t happening.
hey just wondering what would be better for a BoB, a ruger 10 .22 or a ruger mini14? i know that its a ton easier to carry .22 rounds than .223/5.56
but the 5.56 has the stopping power need for anything bigger than a human with no protection.
also jus downloaded the pdf for makin a 10 .22 full auto so wonderin if that will make any difference.
Donato,
If it’s a firearm for putting in the BoB and leaving it packed away, I would go with a .22. And the .22 I’d put in a BoB if buying specifically for that would be a Marlin Papoose, since it’s about 3.5lbs, comes apart to pack, and is relatively inexpensive.
On larger calibers vs. .22 for carrying, it depends on if you’ll go by vehicle (go with larger in addition to a .22) or walking (depends on how far, your physical condition, and other relevant factors). If the distance is far and weight is a concern, I’d go with a .22 and more rounds.
Finally, I would not modify any other weapon for selective fire/full auto without being absolutely certain it’s legal (Tax Stamp, etc.) for where you live and plan on taking it. Breaking the law and ending up either in jail or a felon w/o gun rights just isn’t worth it – could leave you very vulnerable when you need firearms and mobility most.
i see ur point there but in an event of a foreign country invading, i’m guessing a mini14 or the mini30 would b best, probably a mini 30 because the most likely countries to invade us are china and Russia, which both use ak 74s with 7.62×39 same as the mini30 so you’d have abundant ammo sources if your willing to make the pot shots and retrieve it before their comrades do.
I have thought of creating two BOBs, a kit for the vehicle and also a standalone kit for my home. In terms of the BOBs, I have a Mossberg 590 12 ga, and a 2″ Smith .38. Would you leave the Mossberg in favor of a .22 LR and keep the .38 pistol?
Raven,
It depends on how much you have to carry. If you can, I’d take them all. If I had to choose between the 12 gauge and .22, I’d probably pick the .22, depending on how much ammo for it you have.
You are severely over packing in my opinion friend, You have alot of great stuff in this pack but this list looks alot like my pack list from 5-6 years ago before I had any real experience, from when I was what I would call now an “armchair survivalist”. I mean seriously, some of this stuff you will quickly find you do not need if you ever got out and did some serious survival work. or even some long term backpacking.
for instance, the orange plastic shovel? toss it. some of that stuff in the toiletries bag? toss it, you really dont need lotion, shaving lotion (?really?, you goin on a date?) and some of the other stuff. soap, I say of course, thats important, even tooth brush, combine the soap and the toothpaste, get dr. bronners. there is alot of things in this list that you need to think combining tools with.
you ever pack this bag and then go on even a short three day hike with it? it will get heavy quick and 20 mile hikes will be super tough quick, you will quickly get rid of alot of excess weight.
Its easy to see that you are trying to prepare for everything, and thats great. and everyones list is personal, I say go on some trial runs, survive with this pack for a few days, do this in every season, get rid of the un-essentials.
I just finished hiking the Appalachian Trail, I was out in the mountains for 6 months, I know what its like to carry everything you need on your back, and let me give you some advice, alot of this stuff you really dont need.
just go on some trial runs, seriously, and keep tabs on what stuff you use each time you go out, and what things you dont use. and what things you can go without. the more experience you have the more you will learn what stuff you can improvise with as well.
good luck! and good start!
Alex,
Please read through these comments. I’ve said a few times that I’ve thinned down the load, and even that I lost the shaving gel.
Toss a small shovel? Really? You ever been in the field for any length of time, or camping more than a couple days? You NEED a small shovel, and a plastic one is way lighter than an entrenching tool. Have little kids? They have much drier skin, lotion is absolutely needed in winter/dry conditions to prevent chafing and even cracking/bleeding. Can’t take everything, but the focus is on preventing conditions that can more easily lead to sickness/infection. You’re telling me about the stuff I don’t need; but I’m not packing for me, I’m packing for me, my wife, and two little kids. Not the same, a difference kind of experience.
I’ve been on 3+ mile hikes with almost my body weight and have gone ~20 miles with too much weight; I’ve thinned the load and at this point am more concerned about the pack lasting long term than the weight.
Most of your items don’t weigh that much. I’m sure I’d get beat up for posting my list.. but my bag is for more than 72 hours… 72 hours is what I remove from a main bag too a smaller one for recons on from my safe place. My bag has a bit more.. But it’s all season. When it’s time too bug out.. you don’t have time too stop off at Sportsmans Warehouse or Walley World.. A nice Tact vest from Condore is with mine for weight dispersment and good for small items. I set mine to live out of until the dust and fireworks settle. I’d add more 550 cord. all my stakes are wrapped in pairs with 550. I also add a clear drop cloth and small tarp.. I can go the long term or short term while making it too long term. I use a different pack… a large Bug Out Bag from Bug out bags…. It’s great.. plus it has a 100 oz water bladder inside. elemenates the need for canteens.
Why does everyone seem to post the magic number of 72 hours? Does anyone plan for 7 days? 2 weeks? 1 month? If you plan for 72 hours, what are you expecting to happen at the end of that? Or are you under the thinking that by then there should be a new plan or a new reality in place?
I just got into this with in the last year, but from the reading and research that i have done everyone is talking about a 72 hour kit. A 72 hour kit is just designed to help you until there is other options available, such as in natural disasters. The main problem that i have found is that most people don’t get helped with in that 72 hour period, it’s more like 4 to 7 days.
I’m starting mine as a 96 hour kit( one for each member of my family, wife daughter and me) and will build from there.
I will also be putting together an basic survival bag. this will contain my shelter, munitions, and survival gear. I plan to bug-in if possible, but if that isn’t the case then i know that i have to be ready to leave if i have to.
Nice list just started my BOB. If bugging out and leaving every thing I worked for 40 years behind I don’t think 72 hours will do it . That said stick with the larger cal. rifle with large capacity mag or two like a Ruger Mini 14 the garand style rifle is battle tested and served our armed forces well for many years . Mini’s also fire 223 Rem and the 556 x45 also would not want to try take down a deer for dinner with a 22LR . Also strap a can of mace or pepper spray to the front of your rifle to spray an attacker first you might have to shot him later but you gave him #1 warning #2 a spraying third strike your out . The water filter is also a very good item but I think a spare filter element and some coffee filters to pre treat water to make the filters last longer .The flat v shaped coffee filters from Milita work best for this . Another thing you should look into is a small solar battery charger and rechargable batteries some chargers have USB charging ports for cell phones,GPS,ipods . I know an ipod don’t sound like it belongs in a BOB but with two small kids you can load music ,stories and audio books to keep them busy because even at 4or 5 daddy with a backpack and gun they know some things wrong .
Hey Everyone,
I live in the fringe suburbs in Australia and originally my bug out plan was to gather my family and head out to what we call “Crown” land or land owned by the Government so it’s not owned by a person as such. I’m really not so sure now. While not many people in Australia are into “prepping” I reckon everyone’s going to head bush because it’s just what feels like the thing to do. So, now i’m torn between this romantic notion of heading out whop whop or hunkering down to face the angry hords….
Great Pack. I have the CFP-90 as well but it’s only for myself though I have enough gear for another person if need be. I always see a few people say the pack is too big no matter how big the pack actually is. The pack is not mission specific like a thru hiker or soldier so there should be more supplies that I wish some people would understand. Plus you can always dump gear along the way but you can’t go back in time to add gear. We have a lot of the same stuff. Two things I’m looking to add is a good solar charging set-up and communication that’s more than 2-way radios and the emergency radio but come part of a radio community to really keep up with the outside world. Once I set-up a bol I can take a lot less gear but until then I’m not leaving behind anything I can carry.
Here is a list off the top of my head thats in my BoB. bug out brand w/MOLLE on outside of it.
4L water, 3 in a camel back 1 in a nalgene w/ canteen cup, hunting knife, hachet, E-tool, fire tools/materials, 3 MRE’s, 1 change of clothes 2 sets underwear, hygene gear, towel, bandana, first aid kit, deck of cards, multi vitamins, water tabs, asprin, sunblock, glow sticks, small solar charger, flahlights x 2 w/ spare batteeries, 1 set silverware, compass, emergency blanket, handheld cb radio, 100ft 550 cord, (10) 1oz silver coins, .45acp pistol, ammo. I know im forgetting a few things too.
my pistol is a given but my 12ga shotgun or rem 700 rifle would also come along. probably the 12ga. just cause its hard enough as it is now to find 300 rem ultra mag ammo.
I like the idea of having a fishing net too, ill have to add that.
kids packs contain: 1 liter water, 1 MRE, swiss army knife, headlamps w/spare batts, clothes, hat, hygene gear, bandana, small toy, emergency blanket, glow sticks, 550 cord, matches. kids packs weigh no more than 10 lbs. ages 10 and 8 so they can handle the pack well.
I’ve read and listened to all the pros and cons of bugging out vs bugging in. Now I have a question for those with more skill and knowledge. We live in Fairbanks, Alaska. There are 2 roads into this area – one from Anchorage and the other heading toward Canada or Valdez. Destroying 2 bridges will totally isolate us from the rest of Alaska as well as wiping out the transportation system from the Port of Anchorage where the majority of our goods come through. My husband and I realize that the likelihood of being able to bug out isn’t really an option. He’s a 100% disabled veteran so we do have access to Fort Wainwright’s PX and commissary.
That being said, the one thing that I see very little of are methods for transporting items scaveneged, bartered for or purchased. One thing I pay particular attention in areas of the world where refugess are fleeing is what they are using to carry their belongings. Yet this topic is one that I am not able to find a great deal of information on. The old WWII films show baby carriages piled high or farm carts loaded to overflowing. Most of the books, websites, etc. never seem to address this particular topic. We’ve built an old-fashioned garden cart that can be pulled by our service dogs as well as purchasing a 3-wheeled bike and another bike (the coaster brake, nothing fancy, no gears, etc) for local transportation that don’t require fossil fuels.
We’ve covered all the other bases – water, food, shelter, security/safety, non-GMO seeds, support network, meds, first-aid but I want to be sure that I am not missing the obvious in regards to being able to getting around while bugging in. Any information, options and opinions would be welcome.
Super glue might work BUT it is NOT the same as surgical glue? The related compound 2-octyl cyanoacrylate is a medical grade glue; it was developed to be non-toxic and less irritating to skin tissue. I know a 22 will bring down deer, given that you can place your shot right. More importantly it will do small game and I can definitely do more than piss a human off with it. Let me place a couple of rounds in the right places and you will not want to fool with me anymore. Kinda all over on the comments I’m just reacting to the list I read above. Good luck if and when tshtf.
I’m with Ranger 9-76. I can defend what I know! My home and the area around me is where my day to day knowladge will see me through. Think about the last time you were on vacation in a place for the 1st time. You looked like a lost idiot just trying to find a McDanalds in a friendly situation! How the hell are you going to travel family in tow on strange ground with unfriendly combatants. I have a small BOB and a place and plan to move armed, light and quickly if my home base is breached. More importantly I have a few BOBs (back on base) bags to get me home. Lets face it if SHTF happens you’ll be at work or else where. How many were at work during 911??? Think about it. If you have kids have a plan that starts with spouse LOC, meet at the kids location (they’re not self mobile), assess the situation, get to base and lockdown. Even a non-preper can survive for weeks in their own home assuming they have a means to defend the home. If you are breached have a evac plan with relatives in various directions and distances.
Living in Honolulu Hawaii my family and I will be Buggin in. BUT I gotta get to my house first, if a natural disaster/SHTF happens while at work or away from the house. (I can run home from work in less than 17 minutes.) If you live in an urban environment, if physically able, you should see how long it would take to walk/run to your home. B/C there may be gridlock on the roadways with debris or too many autos.
I also have Multiple places of Buggin in: My house, my work, or my parents house. Parents house is optimal since they live up a hill. Pretty much at the end of the road with ONLY one way in. This will be my next ‘timed-run’ up 2.5 miles of moderate/steep grade.
We are all one….until the SHTF. Then it’s every person for themselves.-Quote by me.